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on June 24th 2002 the Brazilian Senate

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convened to hear testimony from the

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country's leading researchers a formal

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Federal representative and other

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the topic UFOs

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this hearing was organized to address

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the Brazilian military's history with

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unusual aerial objects as well as

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addressing the global attention the

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subject had received in recent years

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particularly in the United States

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several U.S representatives spoke at the

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event as well such as Robert Salas one

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of the primary witnesses to the

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Maelstrom UFO incident also in

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attendance was UFO researcher from the

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UK Gary Hazeltine joining the hearing

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remotely was former director of The Once

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Secret Pentagon UFO program Luis

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Elizondo he addressed those in

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attendance on the importance of

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governmental investigations into UFOs

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during this hearing many cases were

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brought to light showing that Brazil was

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definitely a hot spot for UFO activity

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and that the Brazilian Air Force was

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heavily involved in many of these cases

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whether it included their own Personnel

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or members of the public the following

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are just a handful of those cases and

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many of them came from one place that

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are in dodgy or better known to

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foreign

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of 1957 the Brazilian Navy established a

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base on the island of trendachi strictly

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for scientific research

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the island which is completely

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unoccupied is approximately six miles

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off the coast of Brazil in the South

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Atlantic Ocean

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from this base scientists would conduct

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both Oceanic and meteorological research

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many of these research projects would

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involve the launching of weather

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balloons each day into the upper

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atmosphere that would then explode and

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send research instruments back to the

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ground attached to parachutes where data

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could be collected and studied

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however it wasn't long before those

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involved in these tests noticed strange

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metallic disc shaped objects appearing

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in the sky near the balloons almost as

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if they were monitoring what was taking

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place

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one of these metallic disc shaped

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objects was first cited on the morning

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of January 1st when a sudden bright

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light was witnessed moving across the

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sky appearing like a mirror reflecting

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sunlight

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the sighting was witnessed by almost the

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entire base

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the following evening about 400 miles

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away a circular orange object approached

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the Navy vessel triunfo and is circled

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it several times

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this continued for around 10 minutes

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before the bizarre object took off at

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great speed and disappeared out of sight

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another incident would occur on January

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6th when the chief of the base commander

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Carlos basilar oversaw the daily launch

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of the weather balloon

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it was a clear blue sky day aside for a

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single group of clouds at an approximate

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altitude of 14 000 feet although he

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didn't know it what basilar thought was

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another standard on eventful balloon

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launch would quickly become one of the

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most mind-blowing Encounters of the

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basilar had returned inside the base and

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was listening to the signals being sent

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out by the weather balloon then for no

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apparent reason everything stopped with

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no signals coming through the commander

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returned outside in order to view the

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balloon

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as it should however almost as soon as

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it touched the single Bank of clouds it

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rushed upward as if it had been

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physically pulled up by some sort of

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nothing was seen of the balloon for over

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then it came back into view once more

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only now it was above the cloud Bank

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unbelievably the research instruments on

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the balloon had been entirely removed

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things got even stranger when several

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moments later a metallic silver

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crescent-shaped object came out of the

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clouds and headed off into the distance

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just over a week later the objects

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appeared again

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only this time one witness would capture

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photographic evidence of their presence

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a little after 12 pm on January 16th a

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boat by the name of almerante Saldanha

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was off the south coast of trendaji

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waiting to set off to Rio De Janeiro

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all of the crew and many of the

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passengers on board however would soon

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notice a strange shiny object

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approaching them one of those who

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witnessed the approaching anomalous

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object was a photographer almiro Parana

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he would later tell a local news

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reporter that he was making his weight

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the deck on the afternoon in question

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and two of the Navy officers were

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rushing toward him attempting to divert

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his attention to the sky among the

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commotion he would hear them say

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something about a bright object

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he struggled to see what they were

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then he caught sight of The Flash that

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it emitted he suddenly realized just how

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close the island it was

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as it reflected the sunlight it appeared

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to glitter somewhat realizing he had his

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camera in his hands he raised it to his

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eye pointed it at the bizarre object and

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pressed down the shutter

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after he had snapped the first two

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pictures the object disappeared from

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their view for several moments behind

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the peaks of the island

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when it reappeared it seemed much bigger

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in size it was now moving in the

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opposite direction it was also moving

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with much more Pace than before

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again he turned the camera in the

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object's Direction and captured a third

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photograph

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the crafter is now heading back in the

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direction it had arrived from back out

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piranha managed to raise the camera once

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more using the last available film to

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capture the craft as it disappeared into

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the distance

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he would later describe the object as

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gray metallic and solid looking

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he would further state that a greenish

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Haze or Mist appeared to surround it as

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it moved and that there was a ring that

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appeared to run around its middle

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but Rana would have the photographs

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developed around an hour later

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however there was no photographic paper

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on board only the negatives were

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immediately available

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initially it appeared as if the object

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had not been captured however after

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viewing them more clearly all present

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could see the bizarre craft

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when the vessel finally set off to Rio

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De Janeiro Verona remained on board and

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took the negatives with him he would

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ultimately develop the pictures at his

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home studio and would contact Commander

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basilar immediately after doing so

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basilar would take the photographs to

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the Navy Ministry returning them to

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piranha 48 hours later

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however not long after the pictures were

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returned varana himself was summoned to

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Navy headquarters

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once there he was questioned extensively

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about the pictures and the sighting

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itself

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meanwhile the pictures were undergoing

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extensive examinations for signs of

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tampering

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none were discovered and the pictures

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were passed by the Navy as authentic

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a short time after that they were

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officially released to the Press

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these photos are available to view right

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What followed was a media frenzy for

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information on the sighting and

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interviews with the witnesses

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it also sparked the interests of various

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UFO investigators one of these

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investigators was a Lavo Fontes he was

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told by an anonymous source in the

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Brazilian Navy that radar had tracked an

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unknown object in the region the

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previous day even more intriguing

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another sighting of an object that

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matched the same description occurred

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less than 10 hours earlier at around 2

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30 a.m on that morning the chief of

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surgery at Rio Hospital

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fundau witnessed the object off the

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coast in the direction of turnendaji

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Island along with other members of his

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family even more intriguing at

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approximately the same time an identical

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object in the same location was

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witnessed by several crew of the

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tridente Navy vessel

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as the weeks went on and further

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Witnesses came forward more and more

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information began to seep from the pages

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of the newspapers and into the public

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according to one report at the time of

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the actual sighting almost all of the

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ship's navigational equipment began to

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malfunction as did their communication

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systems piranha himself would state in

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an interview many years later that just

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before people begin noticing the

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metallic shiny object all of the power

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in the ship had suddenly cut out

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interestingly the Navy did not comment

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on this aspect of the incident and

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according to one article they considered

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this aspect of the encounter top secret

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the case continued to Fascinate the UFO

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Community as well as the Brazilian

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however it wasn't until several years

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later in 1964 that further information

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would enter the public Arena via leaked

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documents to researcher and investigator

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Coral Lorenzen

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according to the official Navy documents

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which were the result of a report the

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House of Representatives had ordered of

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the Navy a report that had until now

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remained secret ultimately concluded

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that the sighting and photographs quote

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permit the admission that there are

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indications of the existence of

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unidentified aerial objects end quote

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what's also intriguing is that just

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prior to these documents being leaked to

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Lorenzen UFO debunker Donald Menzel had

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accused piranha of completely faking

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these photos and of doing so by using

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double exposure he would even repeat

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these allegations several years later in

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a book claiming to detail exactly how

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this was achieved but what mental never

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mentioned or more appropriately

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purposefully left out is the sheer

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number of witnesses who saw the object

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with their own eyes

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the fact of the matter is this besides

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trendaji Brazil has a long history of

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UFOs

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for example in Sao Paulo on July 23 1947

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only weeks after the alleged Roswell UFO

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crash in New Mexico a very strange close

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encounter story had emerged

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on July 23rd Jose Higgins reported

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seeing a white gray disc shaped craft

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that was resting on the ground on what

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appeared to be four Meadow legs

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he estimated that the object was around

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150 feet across as he stood taking in as

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many details as he could a section of

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the vehicle opened and three human

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figures emerged

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the first thing that stood out to

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Higgins is that they were all around

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seven feet tall they had large bald

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heads with round eyes

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and they had particularly long legs in

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comparison to the overall frame they

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were all dressed in strange clothing

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that appeared to resemble plastic bags

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and on their backs were something akin

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to metal boxes

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it also appeared that at least two other

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humanoid entities remained inside the

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craft and they looked identical to the

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others even though the others had come

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fully out of the object they remained in

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this shade as if consciously staying out

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of direct sunlight vampire style Higgins

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could hear them speaking although it was

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a language unknown to him one of these

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beings suddenly pointed a metal tube at

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Higgins and motioned for him to come

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closer they gestured formed a look

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inside the opening of The Craft which he

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ultimately did although he did not step

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inside

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he attempted to ask through gesturing

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where did they come from they appear to

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understand as they drew a large circle

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on the ground surrounded by several

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smaller circles then they pointed to one

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of these circles presumably their home

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planet

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it wasn't clear to Higgins what solar

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system or planet or even Galaxy these

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seemingly extraterrestrial visitors

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might have been referring to they then

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gestured for him to go inside but he

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politely declined and began to make his

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way from the scene after several moments

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the entities got back inside the craft

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which then ascended into the sky and

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disappeared

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in November of 1952 several more

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sightings occurred in Brazil according

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to an article titled my contact with

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flying saucers Dino crespedon claimed to

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have witnessed several UFOs over three

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nights in the mountains of angatupa on

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the third night in question one of these

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strange objects landed where Dino was

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kept he further put forward that he was

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invited on board the craft an invite he

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duly accepted

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perhaps one thing of interest in note

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here are the claims that Dino was told

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the aliens came from the satellites of

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Jupiter in recent years scientists have

378
00:17:48,409 --> 00:17:44,880
indeed pondered whether at least two of

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the gas giants moons could Harbor life

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so maybe there is some Credence to

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Dino's claim

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around the same time in Kubota according

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to the research files of UFO

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investigator an Alicia Santos Francisco

385
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a truly tragic event would unfold

386
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a nine-year-old girl was playing outside

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with friends and her brother as they

388
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played though an extremely strong wind

389
00:18:16,490 --> 00:18:13,980
suddenly appeared out of nowhere causing

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them all to stop what they were doing

391
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then a moment later a bizarre object

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00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:22,620
appeared and landed nearby

393
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the witnesses would later State this

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strange vehicle was approximately the

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size of a bus after a moment or two a

396
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door opened in the side of this

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mysterious craft

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moments later a metallic arrow shot out

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of the doorway before the children could

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stand anymore they all turned and ran

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from the scene

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by the time the group had come to their

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senses and composed themselves the young

404
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girl realized that her brother was

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missing

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after telling her parents what had

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happened they and many neighbors and

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Friends set out looking for the young

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boy several hours later a report was

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received by the police department of a

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nearby City

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they had found the missing boy wandering

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the streets in a severe State of Shock

414
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by the time the family arrived the boy

415
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was suffering from severe skin burns in

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an extremely high fever

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a short time after he was found he would

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tragically pass away

419
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it appeared that he was suffering from

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exposure to radiation

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only weeks after the encounters at UFO

422
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Island had reached the peak on the night

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of February 24th another bizarre

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encounter unfolded in Brazil

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this time in the state of Bahia

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according to a report the incident

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occurred at a little after 3 A.M when a

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doctor by the name of Carlos Jose to

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Costa Pereira and his friend Antonio de

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aruja were being driven by pereira's

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driver Manuel Mendes

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suddenly their car began to stutter

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after several moments of this it cut out

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altogether and came to a sudden stop the

435
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three men stepped out from the vehicle

436
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and attempted to discover what the

437
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problem might be everything appeared to

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be fine as they were miles away from the

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nearest Village they decided to spend

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the night exactly where they were and

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then set out for assistance the next

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morning as they were getting ready to do

443
00:20:38,029 --> 00:20:35,940
so however they noticed a large luminous

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object that appeared to be hovering

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00:20:43,490 --> 00:20:40,799
overhead a short distance away

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Pereira would later State how the object

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glowed with a strange light which seemed

448
00:20:52,130 --> 00:20:49,679
fluid between silver and blue they soon

449
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:52,140
realized that the object was not merely

450
00:20:56,990 --> 00:20:54,480
hovering but was heading in their

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Direction getting larger with each

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passing second

453
00:21:03,470 --> 00:21:01,140
the closer it got the more they could

454
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:03,480
make out the shape which was like two

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bowls placed facing each other with a

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gold disc or ring running through the

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middle as if connecting the upper and

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lower sections

459
00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:16,559
this ring was spinning extremely quickly

460
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the object came to a stop approximately

461
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250 feet from where the men were

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00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:25,080
standing it was at about a height of a

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hundred feet off the ground

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it remained still in silent for several

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00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:31,919
seconds before it went into motion once

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more

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the object then descended directly

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downward coming to a stop once more when

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00:21:44,810 --> 00:21:42,120
it was only about 10 feet off the ground

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as it descended the witnesses could see

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00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:47,159
that the bottom section was slightly

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flattened and that the glow from the

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object was spreading toward the ground

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like a curtain of light suspended

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00:22:01,010 --> 00:21:57,840
between the object and the ground below

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at this point Mendes returned to the

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vehicle clearly unsettled by the events

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Pereira and his friend on the other hand

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remained where they were neither taking

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their eyes from the mysterious object

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they remained looking at the craft for

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several minutes as it remained where it

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00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:17,880
was

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deciding to take matters into their own

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hands the two men made the decision to

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walk toward the hovering craft

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however when they came to within a few

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feet of it it shot into the air with

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Breakneck speed coming to a sudden stop

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around 600 feet from the ground

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over the next several minutes it moved

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up and it crossed the sky performing

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various Maneuvers as it did so

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eventually by around 4 30 a.m the object

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disappeared from sight and appeared to

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be gone for good however at 6 30 a.m two

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hours later and it was four hours after

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they had first seen it they saw the

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object again hovering at a relatively

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low altitude slightly tilted on its side

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00:23:10,010 --> 00:23:07,799
it remained motionless for several

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minutes before it suddenly shot into the

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distance and disappeared almost

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00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,700
instantly

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incidentally before they set out to

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search for help with the arrival of

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daylight the three men tried the vehicle

508
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one last time to their amazement the

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engine roared into life with no problems

510
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whatsoever

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while there are many other documented

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UFO stories out of Brazil the next case

513
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we'll discuss became widely known as the

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caloris incident and would prompt the

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Brazilian government to investigate it

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under the title apparato Prato or better

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known in the English-speaking world as

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somewhere Skies

530
00:24:38,330 --> 00:24:36,169
operation saucer was an investigation in

531
00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:38,340
their series of reported incidents in

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1977.

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00:24:46,010 --> 00:24:43,140
where residents in the Brazilian city of

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00:24:49,070 --> 00:24:46,020
kalaris claimed that they not only

535
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:49,080
witnessed flying saucers but they were

536
00:24:56,510 --> 00:24:53,039
also being attacked by them

537
00:24:58,850 --> 00:24:56,520
bright objects of differing shapes sizes

538
00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:58,860
and colors were said to have been flying

539
00:25:05,270 --> 00:25:01,919
at low altitudes just a few meters above

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00:25:07,789 --> 00:25:05,280
the tops of trees in firing light beams

541
00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:07,799
at people on the ground below

542
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:09,960
several witnesses claim to have seen

543
00:25:15,710 --> 00:25:13,200
beings piloting these craft describing

544
00:25:16,850 --> 00:25:15,720
them as no more than three to four feet

545
00:25:19,310 --> 00:25:16,860
tall

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00:25:21,710 --> 00:25:19,320
what separates these sightings from the

547
00:25:25,130 --> 00:25:21,720
unusual glimpses of UFOs in the skies

548
00:25:27,230 --> 00:25:25,140
are the numerous and recurring injuries

549
00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:27,240
that people suffered

550
00:25:33,950 --> 00:25:30,840
these beams gave off intense rays of

551
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:33,960
radiation that caused puncture marks and

552
00:25:38,810 --> 00:25:36,720
lesions with some people reporting to

553
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:38,820
local media at the time that it felt

554
00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:40,799
like a heavy weight had been pushed

555
00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:42,559
against their chest

556
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:45,919
describing the injuries Dr villade

557
00:25:51,169 --> 00:25:48,720
Carvalho who worked in a healthcare unit

558
00:25:54,350 --> 00:25:51,179
at the time would State the following

559
00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:54,360
about the patients she treated the

560
00:25:59,390 --> 00:25:57,000
patient suffered lesions to the face or

561
00:26:01,549 --> 00:25:59,400
the middle and upper back they appeared

562
00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:01,559
as though these lesions could be some

563
00:26:07,010 --> 00:26:03,600
type of radiation burn

564
00:26:08,810 --> 00:26:07,020
the lesions or wounds began with intense

565
00:26:09,950 --> 00:26:08,820
reddening of the skin in the affected

566
00:26:12,049 --> 00:26:09,960
area

567
00:26:14,210 --> 00:26:12,059
later some of the patients claim that

568
00:26:16,850 --> 00:26:14,220
their hair would fall out and their skin

569
00:26:20,029 --> 00:26:16,860
would turn black despite all of this

570
00:26:22,610 --> 00:26:20,039
there was no pain only a slight warmth

571
00:26:24,830 --> 00:26:22,620
on their wounds the patients were men

572
00:26:26,570 --> 00:26:24,840
and women of varying ages without any

573
00:26:29,690 --> 00:26:26,580
patterns

574
00:26:33,289 --> 00:26:29,700
soon the saucers were quickly dubbed

575
00:26:35,630 --> 00:26:33,299
Chupa Chupa meaning sucker sucker and

576
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:35,640
with reports of more sightings and more

577
00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:37,679
incidents of people being injured or

578
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:40,980
losing blood Panic soon started to set

579
00:26:46,010 --> 00:26:43,679
in and women and children left the area

580
00:26:48,529 --> 00:26:46,020
while local men stayed to look after

581
00:26:51,169 --> 00:26:48,539
their homes or possessions

582
00:26:52,970 --> 00:26:51,179
with no reasonable explanation offered

583
00:26:56,090 --> 00:26:52,980
as to what exactly was behind the

584
00:26:58,610 --> 00:26:56,100
so-called attacks from the UFOs or Chupa

585
00:27:00,890 --> 00:26:58,620
chupas the Brazilian Air Force was

586
00:27:02,330 --> 00:27:00,900
tasked with finding out what was going

587
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:02,340
on

588
00:27:07,370 --> 00:27:05,039
and this is when they decided to launch

589
00:27:10,610 --> 00:27:07,380
operation saucer which would

590
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:10,620
subsequently compile a 2 000 page

591
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:13,440
military Report featuring 500

592
00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:17,279
photographs in 16 hours of film that the

593
00:27:22,130 --> 00:27:19,860
Brazilian Air Force reportedly witnessed

594
00:27:25,730 --> 00:27:22,140
with their own eyes

595
00:27:27,769 --> 00:27:25,740
Brazilian UFO researcher Daniel robiso

596
00:27:30,529 --> 00:27:27,779
gisi claimed that several military

597
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:30,539
personnel suffered nervous breakdowns

598
00:27:35,630 --> 00:27:33,120
While others went completely insane

599
00:27:37,789 --> 00:27:35,640
during the course of the investigation

600
00:27:40,970 --> 00:27:37,799
the documents within the investigation

601
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:40,980
were kept classified until several Pages

602
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:44,640
were released in 2004 showing drawings

603
00:27:50,090 --> 00:27:47,120
and photographs of what the military saw

604
00:27:52,490 --> 00:27:50,100
bright cylindrical lights featured in

605
00:27:54,769 --> 00:27:52,500
the photographs or several drawings show

606
00:27:57,470 --> 00:27:54,779
similarly shaped objects witnessed by

607
00:28:00,049 --> 00:27:57,480
people on the island at the time

608
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:00,059
despite this the operation never

609
00:28:05,330 --> 00:28:03,120
explicitly stated that UFOs or aliens

610
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:05,340
were the official cause of the sightings

611
00:28:09,710 --> 00:28:06,960
and injuries

612
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:09,720
however high-ranking officials from the

613
00:28:15,470 --> 00:28:12,480
Air Force reportedly told a group of UFO

614
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:15,480
researchers in 2004 that they had

615
00:28:22,909 --> 00:28:18,000
discreetly been studying the existence

616
00:28:24,890 --> 00:28:22,919
of UFOs since the mid-1950s Dr cavallho

617
00:28:27,470 --> 00:28:24,900
would later come forward to claim the

618
00:28:30,890 --> 00:28:27,480
following on what the Air Force told her

619
00:28:32,570 --> 00:28:30,900
to tell her patients and the public I

620
00:28:35,090 --> 00:28:32,580
was ordered to lie to them about their

621
00:28:37,010 --> 00:28:35,100
injuries to tell them they were simply

622
00:28:39,409 --> 00:28:37,020
hallucinations this is what the Air

623
00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:39,419
Force told me to say that it didn't

624
00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:40,620
happen

625
00:28:45,169 --> 00:28:42,600
I was told to tell the public it was

626
00:28:47,690 --> 00:28:45,179
mass hysteria but nobody can have the

627
00:28:49,610 --> 00:28:47,700
same delirium the same visual and

628
00:28:52,130 --> 00:28:49,620
synthetic hallucinations at the same

629
00:28:55,310 --> 00:28:52,140
time in different places

630
00:28:59,210 --> 00:28:55,320
even more stunning Carvalho would claim

631
00:29:01,970 --> 00:28:59,220
to have witnessed a UFO herself I could

632
00:29:04,130 --> 00:29:01,980
see the UFO's bright medal it wasn't

633
00:29:06,350 --> 00:29:04,140
disc shaped however it was much more

634
00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:06,360
like a cone or a cylinder

635
00:29:10,490 --> 00:29:08,700
this was all I needed to know something

636
00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:10,500
was truly happening

637
00:29:17,450 --> 00:29:14,400
I had now witnessed it myself

638
00:29:21,409 --> 00:29:17,460
in addition the commander of operation

639
00:29:25,070 --> 00:29:21,419
saucer Captain yeran hey Bolivar Suarez

640
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,080
gave an interview in 1997 to UFO

641
00:29:29,690 --> 00:29:27,360
magazine where he recounted how

642
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,700
terrified his men were during their

643
00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:31,440
investigations

644
00:29:35,570 --> 00:29:33,240
he went on to reveal eyewitness

645
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:35,580
statements which described residents

646
00:29:41,330 --> 00:29:38,159
waking up to beings wearing protective

647
00:29:43,970 --> 00:29:41,340
clothing and shooting colored beams at

648
00:29:46,730 --> 00:29:43,980
their heads as well as several officers

649
00:29:50,169 --> 00:29:46,740
reporting seeing strange lights emerging

650
00:29:53,570 --> 00:29:50,179
from and Diving back into Coastal Waters

651
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:53,580
leading some to assume this was the

652
00:29:58,970 --> 00:29:56,880
location of a UFO base

653
00:30:03,049 --> 00:29:58,980
three months after giving this interview

654
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:03,059
the captain was found dead in his home

655
00:30:08,750 --> 00:30:05,520
he was concluded that he had committed

656
00:30:11,210 --> 00:30:08,760
suicide leaving some to speculate that

657
00:30:14,090 --> 00:30:11,220
perhaps giving the interview did not

658
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:14,100
leave the Brazilian Air Force happy and

659
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:16,080
that he was actually murdered for coming

660
00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:20,399
forward again only speculation and

661
00:30:24,409 --> 00:30:22,150
tragic no matter the case

662
00:30:27,529 --> 00:30:24,419
[Music]

663
00:30:29,930 --> 00:30:27,539
while operation saucer was indeed a

664
00:30:33,409 --> 00:30:29,940
pinnacle moment in time for Brazilian

665
00:30:36,590 --> 00:30:33,419
UFO history another event would hit the

666
00:30:39,049 --> 00:30:36,600
country almost a decade later and it

667
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:39,059
would come to be known by locals as the

668
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:48,889
on May 19 1986 Sergeant Sergio Mota the

669
00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:51,360
air traffic controller at the Sao Jose

670
00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:55,080
dos Campos airport in Sao Paulo spotted

671
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,940
a light in the sky from the control

672
00:31:01,970 --> 00:30:58,080
tower

673
00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:01,980
intrigued by this Mota s controllers at

674
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:04,140
Sao Paulo's garulis International

675
00:31:09,710 --> 00:31:07,440
Airport tower to check if any plane was

676
00:31:12,769 --> 00:31:09,720
heading to its Airfield

677
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:12,779
the answer was negative and while he was

678
00:31:19,370 --> 00:31:16,559
talking the object vanished after a

679
00:31:21,649 --> 00:31:19,380
while the object reappeared this time

680
00:31:24,769 --> 00:31:21,659
shining even more brightly

681
00:31:27,169 --> 00:31:24,779
Mota fetched some binoculars to observe

682
00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:27,179
the object better and found that the

683
00:31:33,169 --> 00:31:30,720
object was light and multi-colored

684
00:31:35,389 --> 00:31:33,179
at one point the sergeant dimmed the

685
00:31:38,029 --> 00:31:35,399
Airport runway lights and the object

686
00:31:41,510 --> 00:31:38,039
moved closer and when he increased the

687
00:31:44,510 --> 00:31:41,520
brightness the object moved away in an

688
00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:44,520
interview with the BBC Mota would State

689
00:31:48,649 --> 00:31:46,500
the following whether they were trying

690
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:48,659
to interact with me I don't know

691
00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:51,600
what I do know is that they behaved

692
00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:53,279
intelligently

693
00:31:59,090 --> 00:31:56,159
around the same time frame about 200

694
00:32:01,070 --> 00:31:59,100
soldiers including Cadets and officers

695
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:01,080
from the school of aeronautical

696
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,080
Specialists also spotted these lights

697
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:06,720
either with the naked eye or with

698
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:09,200
binoculars according to the ufologist

699
00:32:15,529 --> 00:32:13,440
Edison hunner president of the guadaruja

700
00:32:18,409 --> 00:32:15,539
ufological group

701
00:32:20,330 --> 00:32:18,419
in addition at least three planes

702
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:20,340
reported similar sightings that night

703
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:23,279
one of which was piloted by Brazilian

704
00:32:29,510 --> 00:32:27,120
entrepreneur oziera Silva the objects

705
00:32:32,029 --> 00:32:29,520
were also picked up on radar from the

706
00:32:34,610 --> 00:32:32,039
Brazilian Air Forces integrated Center

707
00:32:38,510 --> 00:32:34,620
for air defense and air traffic control

708
00:32:40,610 --> 00:32:38,520
meaning these were solid objects

709
00:32:43,310 --> 00:32:40,620
the Air Force scrambled its combat

710
00:32:46,310 --> 00:32:43,320
aircraft to intercept the objects

711
00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:46,320
however the pilots were disoriented by

712
00:32:50,810 --> 00:32:48,059
what they had encountered

713
00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:50,820
according to them these multi-colored

714
00:32:57,649 --> 00:32:53,520
objects could hover statically in the

715
00:33:01,549 --> 00:32:57,659
sky Fly in zigzag formations turn at

716
00:33:04,669 --> 00:33:01,559
right angles change color trajectory and

717
00:33:07,630 --> 00:33:04,679
altitude and they could reach up to 15

718
00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:07,640
times the speed of sound

719
00:33:12,769 --> 00:33:10,320
Mota the air traffic controller would

720
00:33:15,070 --> 00:33:12,779
also add the following the number of

721
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:15,080
objects was much higher than 21.

722
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:17,519
sometimes the pilots had visual contact

723
00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:20,240
but The Radars did not register anything

724
00:33:26,029 --> 00:33:23,580
other times The Radars even detected the

725
00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:26,039
presence of objects but the pilots could

726
00:33:30,730 --> 00:33:28,200
not see them the Air Force only

727
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:30,740
considered sightings in which there were

728
00:33:36,350 --> 00:33:34,320
simultaneous confirmation the rest were

729
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:36,360
discarded

730
00:33:43,070 --> 00:33:39,360
initially three planes were dispatched

731
00:33:46,370 --> 00:33:43,080
the first of which in f5e piloted by

732
00:33:48,590 --> 00:33:46,380
Lieutenant Clipper caldes Marino left

733
00:33:51,649 --> 00:33:48,600
the Santa Cruz Air Base in Rio de

734
00:33:54,409 --> 00:33:51,659
Janeiro at 10 34 pm

735
00:33:57,169 --> 00:33:54,419
he described closing in on the target

736
00:33:58,730 --> 00:33:57,179
which stopped moving towards him and

737
00:34:01,070 --> 00:33:58,740
started to climb

738
00:34:03,889 --> 00:34:01,080
he kept following the contact until

739
00:34:06,769 --> 00:34:03,899
about thirty thousand feet when he lost

740
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:06,779
radar contact and was left with just

741
00:34:12,430 --> 00:34:08,879
visual contact

742
00:34:16,129 --> 00:34:12,440
the second fighter a mirage f-103

743
00:34:20,089 --> 00:34:16,139
piloted by Captain armindo Sousa took

744
00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:20,099
off at 10 48 PM from the Annapolis Air

745
00:34:25,010 --> 00:34:21,300
Base

746
00:34:28,129 --> 00:34:25,020
at 11 09 PM the captain noticed an

747
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:28,139
unidentified signal which appeared 22

748
00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:31,200
kilometers away on his radar he

749
00:34:36,649 --> 00:34:33,419
immediately framed his Target and

750
00:34:41,389 --> 00:34:36,659
prepared to fire at the suspected enemy

751
00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:41,399
his plane soon hit the speed of Mach 1.3

752
00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:43,740
and much to the amazement of the captain

753
00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:46,260
when he was nine kilometers from the

754
00:34:54,169 --> 00:34:49,320
target the object accelerated sharply

755
00:34:57,650 --> 00:34:54,179
and reached the speed of Mach 15.

756
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:57,660
the third fighter also an F5 piloted by

757
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:00,960
Captain Marcio or Dao left the Santa

758
00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,320
Cruz Air Base at 10 50 pm and nine

759
00:35:09,710 --> 00:35:06,480
minutes later while conducting searches

760
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:09,720
in the San Jose dos Campos region he was

761
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:12,000
informed by his flight controller one

762
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:14,700
Sergeant Nelson that numerous objects

763
00:35:20,270 --> 00:35:17,520
were flying behind him

764
00:35:23,390 --> 00:35:20,280
based on this the captain performed a

765
00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:23,400
180 maneuver to see his pursuers but to

766
00:35:27,290 --> 00:35:24,660
no avail

767
00:35:30,349 --> 00:35:27,300
according to radar images there were a

768
00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:30,359
total of 13 UFOs

769
00:35:35,950 --> 00:35:32,820
seven on one side and six on the other

770
00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:35,960
that escorted the captain

771
00:35:41,329 --> 00:35:39,480
photojournalist adenir prito was also

772
00:35:44,270 --> 00:35:41,339
working that night in his newspaper

773
00:35:46,670 --> 00:35:44,280
office when he received a tip-off that

774
00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:46,680
there was a flying saucer overhead the

775
00:35:52,370 --> 00:35:49,560
newspaper office he initially assumed it

776
00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:52,380
to be a joke but he did go outside with

777
00:35:57,470 --> 00:35:54,660
the reporter to check it out

778
00:36:00,530 --> 00:35:57,480
and much to his surprise he saw a

779
00:36:01,609 --> 00:36:00,540
multi-colored object moving about in the

780
00:36:04,190 --> 00:36:01,619
night sky

781
00:36:07,069 --> 00:36:04,200
and he was able to capture several

782
00:36:09,230 --> 00:36:07,079
photographs of it a month later two

783
00:36:11,630 --> 00:36:09,240
officers from the Aerospace Technical

784
00:36:14,329 --> 00:36:11,640
Center working in conjunction with the

785
00:36:18,109 --> 00:36:14,339
Brazilian Air Force accompanied by the

786
00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:18,119
American UFO researcher James J hertock

787
00:36:23,870 --> 00:36:21,599
turned up at The Newsroom and demanded

788
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:23,880
that the editor hand them over the

789
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:26,160
negatives of the photos taken by Brito

790
00:36:32,450 --> 00:36:28,800
on the pretext that they needed to be

791
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,460
analyzed by NASA these negatives were

792
00:36:37,550 --> 00:36:34,800
never returned

793
00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:37,560
four days later then minister of

794
00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:40,500
Aeronautics Brigadier Octavio ulio

795
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:43,980
Modera Lima held a press conference in

796
00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:46,380
which he told the reporters that five

797
00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:51,240
Brazilian fighter jets chased 21 UFOs in

798
00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:52,680
total

799
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:55,140
in front of the packed room he would

800
00:36:59,210 --> 00:36:57,359
State the following it's not about

801
00:37:00,890 --> 00:36:59,220
whether or not you believe in

802
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:00,900
extraterrestrial beings or flying

803
00:37:04,670 --> 00:37:03,359
saucers we can only give technical

804
00:37:06,770 --> 00:37:04,680
information

805
00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:06,780
there are several assumptions

806
00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:09,240
technically I would tell you that we

807
00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:12,420
have no explanation all I can tell for

808
00:37:18,650 --> 00:37:15,180
certain is that these events will be

809
00:37:20,690 --> 00:37:18,660
investigated and within 30 days a report

810
00:37:23,870 --> 00:37:20,700
will be released

811
00:37:29,450 --> 00:37:23,880
that report would not be released to the

812
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:29,460
public until 23 years later in 2009

813
00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:32,160
the report concluded that quote the

814
00:37:37,550 --> 00:37:35,160
phenomena are solid and reflect in a

815
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:37,560
certain way intelligence

816
00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:40,079
due to the ability to follow and

817
00:37:45,890 --> 00:37:43,020
maintain a distance from observers as

818
00:37:50,270 --> 00:37:45,900
well as to fly in formation not

819
00:37:53,329 --> 00:37:50,280
necessarily manned end quote

820
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:53,339
so what exactly happened that night over

821
00:38:03,349 --> 00:37:57,599
Brazil like most other UFO cases remains

822
00:38:09,050 --> 00:38:06,349
while Brazil was undoubtedly busy with

823
00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:09,060
UFO reports throughout history the fact

824
00:38:14,450 --> 00:38:12,180
is this abundance of activity has

825
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,460
continued throughout the decades with

826
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:17,280
regular UFO encounters reported even

827
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:18,960
today

828
00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:22,079
so why the abundance in this area of the

829
00:38:25,790 --> 00:38:22,920
world

830
00:38:27,770 --> 00:38:25,800
is it the dense forests and jungles that

831
00:38:30,890 --> 00:38:27,780
offer the chance for either top secret

832
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:30,900
military projects or is some sort of

833
00:38:37,069 --> 00:38:33,599
non-human intelligence somehow attracted

834
00:38:38,569 --> 00:38:37,079
to these areas rich with nature and

835
00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:38,579
resources

836
00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:41,760
or might the fact that the Atlantic hugs

837
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:43,740
a huge part of the country offer

838
00:38:49,490 --> 00:38:46,800
Credence to the claims that these alien

839
00:38:53,630 --> 00:38:49,500
entities have established some kind of

840
00:38:57,410 --> 00:38:53,640
permanent presence deep below our oceans

841
00:39:00,530 --> 00:38:57,420
we obviously can't be certain but one

842
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:00,540
thing we can be certain of is that UFO

843
00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:03,359
Island and Brazil in general is

844
00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:06,900
undoubtedly just as crucial as anywhere

845
00:39:13,550 --> 00:39:10,740
else in unlocking the secrets of the UFO

846
00:39:15,410 --> 00:39:13,560
mystery and as Brazil continues to

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experience these anomalous events

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perhaps the words of Luis Elizondo will

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give them hope of one day finding

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answers

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somewhere in the skies

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here is Elizondo speaking at the

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Brazilian hearing greetings ladies and

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gentlemen and esteemed members of the

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government of Brazil

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my name is Luis Elizondo and I'm a

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career intelligence officer with the

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United States government

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from 2008 to 2017 I had the privilege to

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participate in a small but significant

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program within the Pentagon focusing on

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the collection of UFO data in 2010 I was

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asked to lead the overall effort which

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later became a small footnote to my

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country's history involving the

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dedicated study of this phenomenon it

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was during this time that it became very

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evident to all of us involved in the

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project that our military was

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encountering a technology that far

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exceeded our own capabilities

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furthermore it was abundantly clear that

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this technology had the ability to gain

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access to our controlled airspace and

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once more perform in ways that was

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unimaginable and yet verifiable by some

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of our most sophisticated weapon

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platforms and data collection techniques

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recently elected officials in my country

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have decided the evidence was too

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overwhelming to ignore and called upon

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our defense and intelligence communities

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to participate in a public hearing of

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which I suspect many more will follow

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the result of the hearing was simple and

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yet astonishing one UFOs are real

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two UFOs most likely represent a real

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technology

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and three UFOs are considered a national

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interest for the United States

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further reinforcing this new priority is

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a requirement for our defense and

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intelligence communities to work with

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partner Nations and allies

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although I applaud this new renewed

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interest in a historically forbidden

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area of study it is with great concern

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that I worry about any single country

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00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:18,720
having Monopoly on the study of what is

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now considered Beyond Next Generation

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technology and by default controlling

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the narrative on this topic

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00:41:30,770 --> 00:41:28,500
ladies and gentlemen today I speak to

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you not as a Former Intelligence officer

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00:41:36,530 --> 00:41:32,940
not as a representative of the U.S

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00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:36,540
government and not as a UFO expert today

907
00:41:39,890 --> 00:41:38,940
I appeal to you as an ordinary citizen

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00:41:42,530 --> 00:41:39,900
of the world

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00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:42,540
as your brother your father

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00:41:48,069 --> 00:41:45,480
your son pleading you take this topic

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00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:48,079
seriously and to do what is necessary

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00:41:53,150 --> 00:41:51,300
not just for your constituents but for

913
00:41:56,329 --> 00:41:53,160
every person on the planet

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00:41:59,150 --> 00:41:56,339
today you have a rare opportunity that

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comes only once in a lifetime today I

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00:42:02,470 --> 00:42:00,960
ask you seriously consider the

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00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:02,480
establishment of a Brazilian

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00:42:07,730 --> 00:42:05,040
government-sponsored UFO program

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00:42:10,310 --> 00:42:07,740
that includes scientists and academics

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00:42:12,050 --> 00:42:10,320
the time has come to remove conspiracy

921
00:42:15,230 --> 00:42:12,060
theory and replace it with quantum

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00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:15,240
theory remove stigma and replace it with

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00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:16,500
Academia

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00:42:20,690 --> 00:42:19,200
remove secrecy and replace it with

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00:42:22,849 --> 00:42:20,700
transparency

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00:42:25,130 --> 00:42:22,859
I ask that Brazil helped lead the world

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00:42:26,450 --> 00:42:25,140
in a New Millennium of Enlightenment and

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00:42:28,970 --> 00:42:26,460
knowledge

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I dream that one day Brazil May sit

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amongst friends perhaps at the United

931
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:34,020
Nations and help Usher in a new era of

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00:42:38,510 --> 00:42:36,000
understanding

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00:42:42,589 --> 00:42:38,520
you are in a very rare opportunity right

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00:42:44,210 --> 00:42:42,599
now as as leaders for for Brazil please

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00:42:46,270 --> 00:42:44,220
make no mistake you are on the right

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side of history with this conversation

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this main episode only scratched the

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surface of Brazil's mysterious history

939
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with the UFOs in a companion bonus

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00:43:17,630 --> 00:43:12,720
episode we explore the baffling case of

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the lead masked ufologists in 1966 two

942
00:43:24,109 --> 00:43:21,000
Brazilian UFO researchers headed up to a

943
00:43:27,550 --> 00:43:24,119
hillside they wore suits had briefcases

944
00:43:31,490 --> 00:43:27,560
and also wore lead masks over their eyes

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00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:31,500
then UFOs begin to swarm the area

946
00:43:35,930 --> 00:43:34,560
these two men would be found dead only

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00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:35,940
days later

948
00:43:41,329 --> 00:43:38,880
upon hearing of their deaths a mystery

949
00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:41,339
would unravel that even brought a

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00:43:47,569 --> 00:43:43,740
prominent ufologist to Brazil to

951
00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:47,579
investigate Jacques valet this is the

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00:43:53,809 --> 00:43:51,420
mystery of the lead masked efologists to

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00:44:44,329 --> 00:44:41,940
much for listening and remember keep

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00:44:54,290 --> 00:44:44,339
your feet on the ground but never stop

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